Magnetic fluid device with cooling means



Feb. 25, 1958 H. H. RAYMOND 2,324,634

MAGNETIC FLUID DEVICE WITH COOLING MEANS Filed Sept. 7, 1950 ZhwentorHORA OE HEAYM QND I (Ittornegs United States Patent Q MAGNETIC FLUIDDEVICE WITH COOLING MEANS Horace H. Raymond, Berlin, Conn., assignor toRaymond Engineering Laboratory, Inc., Middletown, Conn., a corporationof Connecticut Application September 7, 1950, Serial No. 183,590 Claims.(Cl. 19221.5)

The present invention relates generally to magnetic fluid brakes andclutches and more particularly to means for rendering such devicescapable of absorbing large amounts of energy without overheating or'failure from other causes.

The present invention relates to clutch and brake devices of the typewherein a flux path is created between two relatively movable membersseparated by a fluid dispersion of fine magnetizable particles such ascarbonyl iron particles. In such devices a torque is created by reasonof the formation of numerous chains of the magnetizable particlesextending between the members as a result of the magnetic flux paththerebetween. If one of the members is held stationary while the otheris revolving, as in the case of a brake, or if the driving memher isrevolving faster than the driven member, as in the case of a slippingclutch, heat is generated in the fluid by reason of the breaking ofthese chains. It has been found by experiment that temperatureassociated with the breaking of these chains is so high as to causecarbonization or breakdown of the oils and greases ordinarily used as afluid carrier of the magnetizable particles, even where the clutch iscooled externally by water jacketing. Furthermore, if heat continues tobe generated, the overall temperature of the clutch rises to the pointwhere the coil, bearings and seals become damaged. Accordingly, thecapacity for absorbing energy and hence the practical applications ofsuch devices has been greatly limited heretofore.

The object of the present invention is to provide a magnetic fluid brakeor clutch in which the heat produced therein can be efliciently andrapidly dissipated so that the capacity of the device is vastlyincreased permitting the device to function over long periods of timeunder heavy slip loads without undesirable increase in temperature, orbreakdown.

Other objects will be in part obvious, and in part pointed out more indetail hereinafter.

The invention accordingly consists in the features of construction,combination of elements and arrangement of parts which will beexemplified in the construction hereafter set forth and the scope of theapplication of which will be indicated in the appended claims.

In the drawing:

Fig. 1 is a diagrammatic view of a cooling systemernployed with amagnetic fluid brake or clutch constructed in accordance with thepresent invention; and

Fig. 2 is a longitudinal cross-sectional view of a magnetic fluid brakeconstructed in accordance with the present invention to permit use ofthe cooling system.

For simplicity of presentation, the invention will be describedprincipally in connection with a magnetic fluidbrake, inasmuch as abrake is ofmore simple construction in that it requires only a singlemovable member, but it will be apparent that the same construction maybe applied to a magnetic fluid clutch, the principle of operation beingthe same inboth cases.

Referring to the drawings, there is shown a magnetic ICC fluid brakegenerally designated at A, which for the most part is of conventionalconstruction. The central portion of the stator or housing is composedof a ring 10 of magnetic material, such as soft iron or socalled Swedishiron having the property of retaining low residual magnetism, which isformed with an annular internal channel 11 for the reception of aconventional field coil 12 composed of a plurality of turns of wireextending circumferentially within channel 11. By reason of the locationof the coil 12 and the form of the ring 18), it will be appreciated thatwhen electrical energy is applied to the coil, the portions of the ring10 on opposite sides of the coil 12 will develop negative and positivemagnetic poles, respectively. In order to enclose the coil 12, anannular ring 13 of non-magnetic material such as stainless steel orbrass is pressed into the inner face of the ring 10 across the channel11,- thereby forming a fluidproof compartment for the coil 12 without atthe same time providing a short circuiting magnetic flux path betweenthe poles of the magnetized ring 10.

The ring 13 is supported between generally circular end plates 15 whichmay be secured thereto in any suitable manner, and which function toclose off the ends of the ring 10 so as to form a fluidproof cylindricalcavity within the ring 10.

A shaft 20, which is journaled in the end plates 15 and preferablysupported therein by anti-friction bearings 21, has secured thereto acylinder 22 composed of magnetic material of small residual magnetism,such as soft iron or so-called Swedish iron. The cylinder 22substantially fills the cylindrical cavity within the ring 10 except fora predetermined small clearance therebetween. By reason of the positionof the cylinder 22 and the form of the ring 10, it will be apparent thata magnetic flux path will be produced when the coil 12 is energizedwhich extends from one side of the coil 12 across the gap between thering 10 and the cylinder 22, thence in an axial direction through thecylinder 22 and returning across the gap to the opposite side of thecoil 12.

In order to render the brake capable of operation, a fluid or flowabledispersion of fine magnetizable particles, such as carbonyl ironparticles, is introduced into the cylindrical cavity so as to fill thegap between the cylinder 22 and the ring 10. Suitable oil seals 23 maybe provided about the shaft 20 in the end plates 15 to prevent leakageof the fluid along the shaft.

A magnetic fluid brake or clutch to the extent described above isrepresentative of the devices of this type constructed in accordancewith the prior art. The essential elements of such a clutch or brake aretwo relatively rotatable members having a small gap therebetween andmeans for providing a magnetic field through the gap. The relativelyrotatable members may be cylindrical as shown in the drawings or may bein the form of face to face disks or in any other form utilized in theart. The magnetic field may be induced by a coil as shown or by one ormore permanent magnets if preferred.

In such prior art devices, the particular fluid dispersion of fine ironparticles utilized has generally been a dispersion in mineral oil orgrease, sealed within the brake or clutch housing. As mentioned above,however, the operation of the brake or clutch while energized andslipping, that is when there is relative angular motion between thedriving and the driven member, produces heat in proportion to the amountof torque developed and the speed of rotation which, when large amountsof power are involved, caused a rapid rise of temperature in such priorart devices. Attempts have been made to cool the housings by air and bycirculating liquid in water jackets, but the areas contacted by thecooling media are relatively remote from the magnetic fluid gap byreason of the fact that said gap must be surrounded by a considerablemass of iron in order to produce the necessary flux path. Thetemperature in the gap is very high in comparison to the temperature ofthe housing and breakdown of the fluid results. Many attempts have .beenmade heretofore to provide an oil, grease, or dry powder lubricant foruse with the carbonyl iron particles which will not eventuallycarbonize, oxidize, dry out, cake, evaporate or leak out past the seals,under the conditions of operation referred to, but all such attemptshave been unsuccessful.

In accordance with the present invention, I have overcome thedisadvantage of prior art magnetic fluid brakes and clutches by devisinga construction permitting a circulation of the fluid in which the ironparticles are dispersed so that the fluid may be externally cooled andthus prevent the temperature of the clutch or brake from rising unduly,thereby vastly increasing the capacity of the clutch or brake to absorbpower while slipping.

In accordance with the invention, I have formed the end members 15 withinternal annular collector grooves 30 disposed adjacent the ends of thegap between the cylinder 22 and the ring 10, and I have provided aninlet opening 31 communicating with the annular groove 30 of one of theend plates 15 and an outlet opening 32 communicating with the annulargroove 30 of the opposite end plate 15.

As best shown in Fig. l of the drawings, I then connect a cooling systemto the inlet and outlet openings 31 and 32. As shown diagrammatically inFig. 1, the outlet opening 32 may be connected by a tube 40 to areservoir B, which is connected at its lower end to a heat inter-changerC, which in turn is connected to a pump D, connected in turn by conduit41 to the inlet opening 31 of the magnetic fluid clutch or brake. Accordingly, by operation of the pump D, a continuous flow of liquid maybe introduced into the magnetic fluid clutch or brake through theopening 31 and returned through the outlet opening 32. By proper designof the cooling system, shown diagrammatically in Fig. 1, it will beapparent that almost any amount of heat may be dissipated from the fluiddispersion.

I have found that such a circulating system, however, cannot be usedwith a magnetic fluid clutch or brake constructed in accordance with theprior art having the usual clearance between the cylinder 22 and thering 10. When it is attempted to cause a flow of the liquid dispersionof iron particles between the cylinder 22 and ring 10 of such a magneticfluid clutch or brake, the back pressure rapidly builds up to a pointwhere circulation greatly diminishes and eventually stops altogether.This appears to result because the use of a circulation system requiresa relatively large volume of the fluid dispersion containing the ironparticles and the inherent operation of the magnetic fluid clutch orbrake is to concentrate the iron particles in the gap between thecylinder 22 and ring 10. Since the circulation of the fluid through thegap increases the amount of iron particles available to the gap and theaction of the magnetic flux path extending between the ring 10 and therotor 22 is such that it tends to retain the iron particles, apparentlythe concentration of iron particles in the gap rapidly builds up to suchan extent that it completely blocks the gap and prevents the passage offluid therethrough. Immediately upon this happening and, assuming thatthe clutch or brake is being operated under conditions of high energyslip, the heat is no longer dissipated and the object of cooling bycirculating the fluid is defeated.

In accordance with the present invention, 1 have devised a means forovercoming this inherent action of the magnetic fluid clutch or brakewhich consists in providing a fluid passageway in the face of one of therelatively movable members of the brake or clutch in communicationlaterally throughout with the gap separating the two members. In theembodiment shown in the drawing, the passageway may be provided by aslot 24 extending in an axial direction in the periphery of the cylinder22. The slot 24 is made of sufiicient size so that the flux pathoccurring at the slot is so diminished in intensity that the blockingaction above referred to is avoided. Accordingly, as the cylinder 22 isrotated, the slot 24 has a scavenging effect upon the gap, permittingflow of fluid between the opposite collector rings 30. With such a slotprovided in the cylinder, it has been found that a continuous flow ofliquid can be pumped into the inlet opening 31 and released outwardlythrough the outlet opening 32 over long periods of time without anyclogging of the system.

For simplicity of description, the slot 24 has been shown as extendingin a straight line and axially of the inner member, although it will beappreciated that the same could be varied in direction or curved, orsimilarly modified without departing from the invention, it beingnecessary only that the slot shall communicate with the gapsubstantially entirely thereacross. It is also within the contemplationof the invention that by proper disposition of the slot 24, such as byforming it in a diagonal or spiral fashion, the rotation of the membercontaining the slot will produce a pumping action which would assist inthe circulation of the fluid through the clutch or brake and which, insome installations, might render the use of an exterior pump Dunnecessary.

The cross-sectional size of the slot 24 will be relative and willdepend, for example, on such variables as the strength of the magneticfield utilized and the size of the clutch or brake. By way of specificexample, one commercial embodiment of a magnetic fluid brake constructedin accordance with the present invention having a ,4 gap between thecylinder 22 and ring 10 is provided with a slot 24 which is Me" squarein cross section.

It is an advantage of the present invention that the desired scavengingaction necessary to permit the passage of fluid through the brake orclutch may be accomplished in many instances by a single slot 24.Additional slots may be utilized if desired, and normally will beadvantageous where the clutch or brake is of large diameter and/or therelative rotation is slow. Although the use of additional slots 24 willdecrease somewhat the effective braking area, this may be readilyovercome by a compensating increase in the size of the clutch or brake.

Inasmuch as a magnetic fluid brake or clutch constructed in accordancewith the present invention can be operated without any material rise intemperature, I have made the unexpected discovery that it is unnecessaryto rely on the use of the relatively expensive and less readilyavailable oil or grease carrier materials used heretofore with theirinherent disadvantages. In fact, the magnetizable iron particles such ascarbonyl iron particles may be dispersed in a carrier consistingessentially of water. I have found that carbonyl iron particles of thesize for this use, namely about four to fifteen microns in diameter willeasily disperse in Water without the necessity for any dispersingagents. Furthermore, such iron particles apparently will not rust in thedispersion, although it is within the scope of the invention to utilizea conventional rust inhibitor, if desired. The concentration of the ironparticles may be very small and of the order of .005 but the exactpercentage of iron particles present does not appear to be critical. Ingeneral, the desired amount of iron may be easily determined by addingsmall quantities of the iron to the fluid dispersion until no materialincrease in braking or clutching power is obtained for the particularmagnetic field strength being utilized.

Water is very efficient as a dispersanttor the iron particles because itwill absorb approximately twice as much heat as oil within a giventemperature range and it can be circulated and cooled in accordance withthe invention to keep the temperature range within safe limits.

In conventional non-circulating clutches or brakes temperaturesfrequently exceed safe limits and. in any event, water could not be usedbecause it would be quickly changed to steam resulting in failure of thebrake or clutch. Water, of course, will not burn or oxidize in any wayor otherwise change its character in use and any evaporation or leakagecan be replaced by suitable additions to the reservoir B.

In conventional clutches or brakes of this type the magnetic fluid issealed in and a very high concentration of carbonyl particles isrequired. When the brake or clutch heats up, expansion or vaporpressure, or both, forces the fluid past the seals so that there is asubstantial loss of volume and fluidity which in short time renders theclutch or brake inoperable. As compared therewith, the clutch or brakeof my invention is not under internal pressure, the amount of fluidavailable is unlimited, and the iron concentration at the gap is alwayskept at an optimum by the inherent action of the gap even though theremainder of the dispersion in the system is dilute.

It might be mentioned that inasmuch as the iron particle concentrationin the gap is greater than in the rest of the fluid system it may bepreferred to shut off the flow of fluid through the clutch or brake whenthe coil is de-energized, thus avoiding flushing out of the concentratediron particles and a consequent time lag in response of the clutch orbrake when the coil is reene'rgized. This can be accomplished in anyconvenient way and may be performed automatically, if desired, by theuse of a solenoid valve suitably connected. to the electrical circuit ofthe coil.

By way of specific example of the use of the present invention I havebeen able to construct a fluid brake, for example, which is of the orderof 6" square in outer dimensions and which, when operated with anelectrical input to the magnetic coil of only about 25 watts, willabsorb as much as horsepower in continuous operation over indefiniteperiods of time without an increase in temperature of more than about 7degrees F. measured at the point where the fluid emerges from opening32. Accordingly, there has been provided in accordance with theinvention a magnetic fluid brake or clutch having a capacity for workingunder slip-load conditions which is phenomenally greater than that ofany existing brakes or clutches of similar size.

As many changes could be made in the above construction and manyapparently widely different embodiments of this invention could be madewithout departing from the scope thereof, it is intended that all mattercontained in the above description or shown in the accompanying drawingsshall be interpreted as illustrative and not in a limiting sense.

It is also to be understood that the language used in the followingclaims is intended to cover all of the generic and specific features ofthe invention herein described and all statements of the scope of theinvention which, as a matter of language, might be said to falltherebetween.

I claim as my invention:

1. In a device of the character described, an outer member formed with acylindrical cavity therein, an inner member mounted co-axially in thecavity for rotation relative to the outer member, said inner and outermembers having a gap therebetween and said inner member being formedwith a longitudinal liquid passageway in its outer surface communicatingtransversely throughout the gap, means for producing a magnetic fluxbetween the inner and the outer member, a reservoir, a dilute dispersionof iron particles in water in said reservoir, and means for circulatingthe dispersion from the reservoir through said cavity and passageway,whereby the iron particles are available to provide linkages along theflux lines interconnecting the outer and inner members and the Waterprovides a carrier for the particles and a cooling medium for thedevice.

2. In a device of the character described, having an outer member formedwith a cylindrical cavity therein, an inner member mounted co-axially inthe cavity for rotation relative to the outer member, and means forproducing a magnetic flux between the inner and the outer member, and aliquid dispersion in the space between the cylinder and the outer memberconsisting essentially of a suspension of fine iron particles in water,the iron particles providing linkages interconnecting the outer andinner members along the flux lines and the water providing a carrier forthe iron particles and a cooling medium for the device.

3. In a device of the character described, a pair of coaxial membersmounted for relative rotation and having a small gap therebetween, meansfor producing a magnetic flux across the gap, means having an inlet andoutlet for respectively directing a flow of liquid toward and away fromsaid gap, means forming a slot in the surface of one of the membersfacing the gap and communicating transversely throughout with the gap, areservoir, a dilute aqueous dispersion of small iron particles in saidreservoir, a heat interchanger, and means including a pump forcirculating the aqueous dispersion from the outlet through the reservoirand heat interchanger to the inlet and thence through the slot and gapto the outlet, the iron particles of the dispersion providing linkagesinterconnecting said members across the gap when said magnetic flux ispresent and the water providing a carrier for the particles and acooling medium for the device.

4. in a device of the character described, a ring of magnetic material,a pair of plates at opposite ends'of the ring for enclosing the spacewithin the ring, a shaft rotatably journaled in at least one of saidplates and extending axially therethrough, a cylinder of magneticmaterial between the end plates and secured to the shaft for rotationtherewith relative to the ring, said cylinder being of such size as toprovide a relatively small annular gap between the cylinder and the ringand having in a segment of its periphery a longitudinal slot extendingfrom end to end providing a relatively deep separating space at saidslot, means for producing a magnetic field in the gap between thecylinder and ring, a liquid dispersion of small magnetizable particlesin the gap, and means for circulating the liquid dispersion of smallmagnetizable particles through the slot and said last-named gap, wherebythe particles provide linkages interconnecting the ring and cylinder andthe liquid provides a carrier for the particles and a cooling medium forthe device.

5. In a device of the character described, a ring of magnetic material,means for closing the ends of the ring, a cylinder of magnetic materialwithin the ring of smaller diameter than the interior diameter of thering to form a relatively narrow gap therebetween and having alongitudinal slot in a segment of its peripheral surface forming arelatively deep separation between the ring and cylinder along the slotextending transversely throughout the gap, means for mounting thecylinder for rotation relative to the ring, a field coil supported bythe ring for producing a magnetic field across the gap between the ringand cylinder, a liquid dispersion of iron particles in the gap, andmeans for circulating the liquid dispersion of iron particles throughsaid slot and gap, whereby the particles provide linkagesinterconnecting the ring and cylinder and the liquid provides a carrierfor the particles and a cooling medium for the device.

6. In a device of the character described, a ring of magnetic material,means for closing the ends of the ring, a cylinder of magnetic materialdisposed within the ring and of smaller diameter than the insidediameter of the ring to provide an annular gap therebetween, means formounting the cylinder for rotation relative to the ring, a field coilsupported by the ring for producing amagnetic field across the gapbetween the ring and cylinder, and a suspension of small iron particlesin water containedin r 7 said gap, whereby the iron particles providealigned linkages under the influence of said field interconnecting thering and cylinder and the water provides a carrier for the ironparticles and a cooling medium for the device.

7. In a device of the character described, a ring of magnetic material,means for closing the ends of the ring, a cylinder of magnetic materialdisposed within the ring and of smaller size than the ring to provide anannular gap therebetween, said cylinder being formed with a Iongitudinal slot in its outer surface extending transversely throughoutthe gap, means for supporting the cylinder for rotation relative to thering, a field coil associated with the ring for producing a magneticfield across the gap between the ring and cylinder, a reservoir, a waterdispersion of small iron particles in said reservoir, and means forcirculating the dispersion from said reservoir through the slot and thegap between the ring and cylinder, whereby the iron particles providealigned linkages under the influence of said field interconnecting thering and cylinder and the water provides a carrier for the ironparticles and a cooling medium for the device.

8. In a device of the character described, a ring of magnetic material,means for closing the ends of the ring, a cylinder of magnetic materialdisposed within the ring and of smaller size than the ring to provide arelatively narrow annular gap therebetween, said cylinder being formedwith a longitudinal slot in a segment of its peripheral surface facingthe gap and providing a relatively deep separation between the ring andcylinder along the slot transversely throughout the gap, means forsupporting the cylinder for rotation relative to the ring, a field coilassociated with the ring for producing a magnetic field across the gapbetween the ring and cylinder, a reservoir, a liquid dispersion of smalliron particles in said reservoir, a heat interchanger, and means forcirculating the dispersion from said reservoir through the heatinterchanger and through the slot and the gap between the ring andcylinder, whereby the particles provide linkages interconnecting thering and cylinder and the liquid provides a carrier for the particlesand a cooling medium for the device.

9. In a device of the character described, a pair of coaxial membersmounted for relative rotation and having a relatively narrow gaptherebetween of substantially uniform cross-section, magnetizing meansfor producing a magnetic flux between the members across the gap, afluid dispersion of fine magnetizable particles in the gap, circulatingmeans for circulating the fluid dispersion of fine magnetizableparticles through the gap, said particles providing linkagesinterconnecting the relatively movable members across the gap when themagnetizing means is energized and the fluid providing a carrier for theparticles and a cooling medium for the device, and means for permittingthe fluid to circulate when the magnetizing means is energizedcomprising a slot in a segment of the peripheral surface of one of themembers facing the gap and extending across the gap transversely of thedirection of rotation of the members, said slot producing a relativelydeep separation between the members along the slot and providing a zoneof reduced magnetic flux.

10. A device as recited in claim 9 wherein the fluid disersion of finemagnetizable particles consists essentially of a dispersion of ironparticles in water.

11 In a device of the character described, an outer member formed withan enclosed cylindrical cavity therein, an inner member mountedcoaxially in the cavity for rotation relative to the outer member, saidmembers being mounted with a relatively narrow gap therebetween ofsubstantially uniform cross-section, magnetizing means for producing amagnetic flux between the members across the gap, a fluid dispersion offine magnetizable particles in the gap, circulating means forcirculating the fluid dispersion of fine magnetizable particles throughthe gap, said particles providing linkages interconnecting therelatively movable members across the gap when the magtit) carrier forthe particles and a cooling meduim for the device, and means forpermitting the fluid to circulate when the magnetizing means isenergized comprising a slot in a segment of the peripheral surface ofone of the members facing the gap and extending across the gaptransversely of the direction of rotation of the members, said slotproducing a relatively deep separation between the members along theslot and providing a zone of reduced magnetic flux.

l2. in a device of the character described, a pair of coaxial membersmounted for relative rotation and having a relatively narrow gaptherebetween of substantially uniform cross-section, magnetizing meansfor producing a magnetic flux between the members across the gap, afluid dispersion of fine magnetizable particles in the gap, a heatinterchanger, means for circulating the fluid dispersion of finemagnetizable particles through the gap and the heat interchanger insequence, said particles providing linkages interconnecting therelatively movable members across the gap when the magnetizing means isenergized and the fluid providing a carrier for the particles and acooling medium for the device. and means for permitting the fluid tocirculate when the magnetizing means is energized comprising a slot in asegment of the peripheral surface of one of the members facing the gapand extending across the gap transversely of the direction of rotationof the members, said slot producing a relatively deep separation betweenthe members along the slot and providing a zone of reduced magneticflux.

13. A device as recited in claim 12 wherein the means for circulatingthe fluid dispersion through the gap and heat interchanger comprises apump.

14. In a device of the character described, a pair of coaxial membersmounted for relative rotation and having a relatively narrow gaptherebetween of substantially uniform cross-section, magnetizing meansfor producing a magnetic flux between the members across the gap, areservoir, a fluid dispersion of fine magnetizable particles in saidreservoir, a heat interchanger, means for circulating the fluiddispersion from the reservoir through the gap and heat interchanger,said particles providing linkages interconnecting the relatively movablemembers across the gap when the magnetizing means is energized and thefluid providing a carrier for the particles and a cooling medium for thedevice, and means for permitting the fluid to circulate when themagnetizing means is energized eomprising a slot in a segment of theperipheral surface of one of the members facing the gap and extendingacross the gap transversely of the direction of rotation of the members,said slot producing a relatively deep separation between the membersalong the slot and providing a zone of reduced magnetic flux.

15. In a device of the character described, a pair of coaxial membersmounted for relative rotation and having a relatively narrow gaptherebetween of substantially uniform cross-section, magnetizing meansfor producing a magnetic flux between the members across the gap, afluid dispersion of fine magnetizable particles in the gap, circulatingmeans for circulating the fluid dispersion of fine magnetizableparticles through the gap, said particles providing linkagesinterconnecting the relatively movable members across the gap when themagnetizing means is energized and the fluid providing a carrier for theparticles and a cooling medium for the device, and means for permittingthe fluid to circulate when the magnetizing means is energizedcomprising a slot of generally square crosssection and approximatelyone-half inch in depth in the surface of one of the members facing thegap and extending across the gap transversely of the direction ofrotation of the members and substantially parallel to the axis ofrotation.

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Magnetic Fluid Clutch, reprint from General Electric Review, December1949, pages 3 to 7 inclusive.

